Which is More Important for a Feminine Chin? Length or Shape? - Heidi Montag's Flat, Broad Chin

Not to speak ill of the dead, but I think that Montag's surgeon could have done better when he reduced her chin. Although her original chin was long, it was rounded, as shown below. But after her chin reduction surgery, the shape was squarer and wider, as if the bottom had simply been sawed off. Good FFS surgeons would never do this intentionally since their goal is to make their patients' faces more feminine, not masculine.

But the question I posed was... which is more important in feminizing a chin? Length or shape? I am guessing shape is, because in the 1st photograph below, she's had her nose done, but still has her old chin. But in the before and after photographs, I changed her chin to make it pointier (more feminine), but also made it longer (not as long as her original chin, but definitely longer). The end result? I think the more feminine shape completely trumps the more masculine length and, as a result, she looks more feminine. 

New nose with original chin (longish but rounded)

Before and after photos showing a longer chin but with a better, more feminine shape. This is what she would have looked like if her doctor had retained the shape of her chin, yet shortened it.

Facial Proportions - Tori Spelling with a Higher Hairline and Slimmer Nose

In my last post about facial proportions, in which I Photoshopped Tori Spelling to show what FFS doctors might do to her if they got a hold of her, I did not change two things:

1. I stopped short of raising her hairline because FFS doctors would never do such a thing. The common belief (or mistake?) is "the lower the better" and that high hairlines are masculine. So in the photo of her, her facial proportions were not quite in tune with Leonardo da Vinci's guidelines (that the face is divided into thirds).
2. Also, although I made her nose more symmetrical, I did not make her nose narrower. In art class, it is often taught that the outer edges of the nose line up with the inner edges of the eyes. I'm not sure if that holds true for all ethnicities, but there are other guidelines out there as well. This is jut one of them.

So, although FFS doctors would never raise a hairline, here she is... Tori Spelling with the changes I made to her in an earlier post, and Tori with a taller forehead and narrower nose.

Approximate facial proportions in the "before" and "after" photos.

	Before	After
Top Third	30%	33%
Middle Third	35%	33%
Lower Third	35%	33%

Do you think the higher forehead makes her look more masculine?

Facial Proportions - Tori Spelling with New Facial Proportions and FFS

Once I read something about Tori Spelling looking like a drag queen. Just recently this came to mind and I thought, "Does she really?" And to answer that question, I found the best photo I could find of her and got started.

The first thing I did was draw a head-shaped oval and put a horizontal line through the center. (I was trying to see how the proportions of her face compare to the guidelines used in drawing faces, shown here. In art class, this is how you start drawing a head.) The eyeballs will fall along the center line. So, the distance from her eyes to the top of her head should be the same distance to her chin.... according to how I was taught, which is just a guideline. But Tori is different. Here eyeballs fall above the center line and the rest wasn't lining up well either, so I wasn't sure what to do with that.

On to Plan B. According to the same art class guideline I mention above, the distance from her eyeballs to right below her nose should be about the same distance as that from below her nose to her chin, and her mouth should fall right above the lowest line. But her mouth is a bit low. I can't make her chin THAT short. It would look odd. So that was not working either.

So on to Plan C. I decided to divide her face into thirds as outlined in Leonardo da Vinci's notebooks, and shown on this page (my guideline is a little off in the image below but I'm sure you get the point). And this is what I got.

The resulting image has four changes:

1. a shorter chin
2. a narrower, pointier chin (unlike Heidi Montag's chin which appears to have been just sawed off at the bottom leaving it wide and flat)
3. a symmetrical nose (to hide her bad rhinoplasty that has left one side caved in)
4. narrower jaw (just the tiniest bit since her jaw stuck out further than her cheekbones)

Approximate facial proportions in the "before" and "after" photos.

	Before	After
Top Third	29%	30%
Middle Third	33%	35%
Lower Third	38%	35%

I did not raise her forehead, due to the fact that FFS doctors would not do that, but if I wanted to remake her face into perfect thirds, that's what I would have done. Also, if she were male and FFS doctors got to her, I think they might suggest more changes since they are prone to that, but I think think the difference is remarkable. But more about facial proportions another day...

Are high hairlines really a masculine trait?

A while ago I saw photos of a Swedish MTF transsexual who had facial feminization surgery by Dr. Yaremchuk in Boston, Massachusetts. (All the photos and YouTube videos have since disappeared though.) I have to say that I have been amazed at his skill and the quality of work, but I believe he was working outside his level of expertise when he took on this patient because the hairline was left too low, among other things.

But in the field of FFS, it seems that patients are routinely expected to get hairline lowering. I've seen hairline lowering that actually left the hairline looking higher than it had been previously. For example if the patient has a widow's peak (not a receding hairline, just a little widow's peak) and that is removed, it makes a difference in the overall look of the forehead.For example:

Vanessa William with her widow's peak, and without it.

But my question is whether high hairlines really look masculine. I once read a statement on a doctor's web site that it's better to go too low than too high. Alexandra, at Virtual FFS doesn't believe that men's hairlines are higher than women's (she explains why here) and I agree with her. She has visual evidence to back her up, after all. Doctors' web sites don't refer to anything. They don't cite sources. So until I see proof otherwise, I will trust the evidence I can see.

But the one thing that doctors don't mention, but I find true, is that short foreheads look weird. For example, the "before" photo is Teresa Giudice's natural forehead. Her scalp hair grows directly on the flat area of her forehead above her eyes. In the "after" photo, I made her hairline too high. 

I think her forehead looks too high in the "after" photo, but it's not especially weird looking, aside from being huge and unnaturally flat. Also, if a doctor lowers a hairline too much, then it's not like one can remove the hair by laser or electrolysis because a massive scar will show.

Ok, enough on hairlines, but I have one more photo. Tyra Banks with a low forehead like Teresa Giudice. (This is young Tyra, before her nose job and the wigs that cover up her naturally high, very high, hairline.)

Would she have made it in modeling with the very low hairline?

Rumer Willis with a Little Less Chin... a Chin Reduction, Part 2

Not to pick on Rumer Willis again, but I just saw a photo of her from a different angle and her chin is really messed up. So I shrunk her chin and set it back a bit since it juts forward. It used to even be smaller at one time but the smaller I made it, the larger her jaw looked. I think the end result is nice though.

I also noticed that when I glance at the first photo, I cannot help but look at her chin. But in the second one, I seem to take in her whole face and even noticed that her hair is messy, which I didn't notice in the first photo at all. It's like her chin took up all my attention.

Ode to Straight Noses - Part 2

In an earlier post I asked why the world of FFS is gaga about scooped noses when this concept (scooped is the ideal) only seems to exist among FFS doctors and their patients. So here are more examples of straight noses.

Elizabeth Taylor

Louise Brooks (I know, not the normal profile shot but I just happened to come across it on accident)

Audrey Hepburn (Not classically straight, but definitely not scooped either. More convex, actually.)

 Also, you might be asking... where are all the scooped noses? I have photographs of beautiful profiles on famous women, but why am I leaving out the scooped ones? Well, like I've mentioned before... scooped notices are, historically, not considered an attractive feature. That is why Angelina Jolie had hers fixed. But to be fair, I've included one. Julie Andrews' nose is scooped. Granted, she did not accomplish what she has by her looks. But I've included her still.. And I straightened her nose a bit while I was at it.

Julie Andrews (The 'before' shot is her natural nose... the 'after' shot is my doing. Which looks better?)

Reese Witherspoon #2 - Forehead Reduction

I was looking at my earlier photo of her in which I had given her a chin reduction and thought... if she were to get facial feminization surgery, she would probably also get a forehead reduction as well. So I gave her one (in addition to the chin work).

I didn't change her forehead to match any concept of ideal facial proportions though. I just eyeballed it. It could be a little to short, perhaps.